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Post by CagedinSanity on Jul 3, 2005 12:46:44 GMT -5
It doesn't take much observation to notice that god is obviously too large of a concept to fit into one idea. This thread is made for anything religion based. If I see any Religion threads outside this one, it will be locked. However a warning won't be necessary because some people may overlook this thread as an accident, which is fine.
But this is a debate and discussion. So I will start with my opinion on "god."
I am an agnostic. Agnostics don't believe God can be scientifically proven, or proven by any means. Three people I've asked, "Have you actually SEEN him, Does he actally TALK to you?" The problem is, people are always like, 'he speaks to me in many ways.' Grr. I'm not talking about metaphorically, dumbass. anyway, all three honestly said no, and brought up the point of "Air." Can't see it... Well, you can actually feel it though. Air can be measured and it's existance has long been proven.
I also asked my mother, "What makes you believe in god so much?" She answers with a "My two wonderful children." Um, that's not a miracle, mother. That is what happens with two people have sex, a baby may may occur. Um, no magical factors are into that. Babies births can be PROVEN. God has nothing to do with it.
I will always be open to the [highly unlikely] existance on god, but I am yet to see.
So tell me how and why any of you can believe in god.
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Post by Jon on Jul 7, 2005 18:16:41 GMT -5
tell me how the universe came into existance, if god wasnt there.
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Post by CagedinSanity on Jul 7, 2005 18:49:21 GMT -5
Not sure about the universe, bit I have my own theories on the birth of the human race. Evolution, read up on Darwins book ('Origin of species?' I forget what it was titled.) It makes a mess load of sense.
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Post by Jon on Jul 7, 2005 19:11:22 GMT -5
ill make sure i do.
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Post by CagedinSanity on Jul 7, 2005 19:13:09 GMT -5
Sadly, I haven't been able to read it. I will some day.
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Post by Jon on Jul 7, 2005 19:24:44 GMT -5
you havent even read it..? <_<
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Post by CagedinSanity on Jul 7, 2005 19:25:42 GMT -5
No, But I've been taught his theories since 7th grade. You don't need to read the book to understand Darwin and his stuff.
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Post by Jon on Jul 7, 2005 19:28:29 GMT -5
oh, hm. i'll probably look it up somewhere.. and read it. =\ maybe.
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Baan Dar
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Post by Baan Dar on Jul 7, 2005 22:00:36 GMT -5
the theory states we came to be from less simple organisms, right?. but where did those organisms come from?
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Post by Jon on Jul 8, 2005 12:02:22 GMT -5
god. =) simple, and obvious.
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Post by CagedinSanity on Jul 8, 2005 16:15:17 GMT -5
the theory states we came to be from less simple organisms, right?. but where did those organisms come from? Evolution and such. You people keep mistaking that this stuff happens over night, when it actually happens over millions of years.
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Post by Jon on Jul 8, 2005 19:35:33 GMT -5
yes, but you think its just that easy. you think that its random, that earth, the only planet in the solar system that can have living organisms just randomly spawn men and women? if what youre thinking was true, would you think people have already lived and died on other planets? or was it god, who KNEW that earth was the only place organisms could live and breathe. explain to me why so many people believe in god if he doesnt exist?
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Post by CagedinSanity on Jul 9, 2005 14:09:02 GMT -5
Because religion began so early on, My theory is that it was made to calm peopel down, to give them some hope to a higher being.
Well, the critical thinking evolved.
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Post by Jon on Jul 9, 2005 17:36:21 GMT -5
calm people down? pfffffft where did jesus come from then? =\
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Post by CagedinSanity on Jul 9, 2005 17:42:06 GMT -5
Who PROVED that mary was a virgin? Their docters sucked back then.
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